Re: The Brzhona.

[Frank George Valoczy <valoczy@vcn.bc.ca>]

On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Padraic Brown wrote:

> On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Frank George Valoczy wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Raymond A. Brown wrote:
> > 
> > > >
> > > >Having had that little taste of self-rule, they didn't particularly like
> > > >being ruled over by the French, who didn't really treat them all that well
> > > >either, so they took off to somewhere new.
> > > 
> > > I must confess I haven't read the 'alternate history' closely, but *here*
> > > Britanny wasn't finally brought under centralized French control until the
> > > Revolutionaries closed down the Breton parliament.
> > 
> > Shall we say that that had happened?
> 
> If the French Revolution *there* unfolded with the same particulars as
> *here* and with the same ideologies, etc.; then this scenario seems
> possible.  I put forward the possibility of a union between Britany and
> Kemr -- the one _is_ a colony after all! -- which would dampen things a
> bit for the French.  [If this becomes official!]  In any event, the
> Brzhona should have moved off to the Low Countries long before the French
> could grasp them with their greedy little claws.  This would leave them at
> the mercy of the nascent Dutch; leaving those that remain in Britany to
> contend with the French, whichever way they may be oriented with respect
> to the Motherland.

I do like the idea of said union, but how would that affect the
Netherlandic Brzhona?  The rising Dutch wouldn't having just won
independence from the Spanish, want to give up part of their Vaderland to
yet another invader, now would they?  But the Brzhona who left left in the
11th/12th centuries, well before the revolution in France, and well before
the Dutch revolution.  Perhaps their presence in the low countries would
alter in some way the direction and outcome of the Dutch revolution.  As
for the Brzhona who did not leave, I would assume that by the time of the
French revolution they had been assimilated into French or whatever
culture/linguistic group was the majority in the area.

> 
> > > >dl = I can't remember what it's called, but it's a "d" and an "l"
> > > >   articulated simultaneously
> > > 
> > > Been trying to make this sound!  Is it a voiced lateral affricate?
> > 
> > I dunno <shrug>.
> 
> Well you discovered it!  I think I understand where you're going with the
> description, though.
> 

Sort of like a trilled "r", but only on tap.  Sorta.  I'll have to find
the paper where I wrote it down.

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