Re: The Brzhona.

[Frank George Valoczy <valoczy@vcn.bc.ca>]

On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Raymond A. Brown wrote:

> At 11:27 24/6/98, Frank George Valoczy wrote:
> [.....]
> >
> >Well.  I used Breton as the Celtic base; wheter this is Brithonic or
> >Gaulish, I don't know.  I'd figure the former (Brezhoneg).  I might have
> >made a rather large blunder,
> 
> No you haven't.  Breton is most definitely Brythonic/Brittonic, being
> closely related to Cornish.
> 
> The only controversial question is why they fled SW Britain to settle in
> Armorica; it used to be claimed that they were fleeing the nasty Saxons,
> but modern scholars think the activities of Irish pirates & raiders is a
> far more like cause.   There is no evidence that the Gallic language
> survived the Roman period at all.
> 
> >>
> >> What impelled them to leave Brittany for the nascent Low Countries?  You
> >> said _most_ of them left; what about those that stayed behind?
> >>
> >
> >Having had that little taste of self-rule, they didn't particularly like
> >being ruled over by the French, who didn't really treat them all that well
> >either, so they took off to somewhere new.
> 
> I must confess I haven't read the 'alternate history' closely, but *here*
> Britanny wasn't finally brought under centralized French control until the
> Revolutionaries closed down the Breton parliament.

Shall we say that that had happened?

> 
> [......]
> >
> >Alright.  Vowels:
> >
> >a, e, i, o, u = like Spanish (basically, the "normal" values for these)
> >w = French "eu", German "o-umlaut"
> >y = French, Dutch "u", German "u-umlaut"
> 
> Same range of vowels as Breton, tho spelt differently  ;-)  Do the Brzhona
> also have nasalized varieties like the Bretons?
> 

No.  Vowels are all clear.

> >
> >Consonants:
> >
> >b, d, f, g, k, l, m, n, p, s, t, z = like English
> >dl = I can't remember what it's called, but it's a "d" and an "l"
> >   articulated simultaneously
> 
> Been trying to make this sound!  Is it a voiced lateral affricate?

I dunno <shrug>.

> 
> >dhl = voiced counterpart of Welsh "ll"  - ah, yes, the Zulu & Xhosa dl.

I forgot to say:  In the pronunciation of some speakers, "gh" is
articulated like Dutch "g" in "gek"

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