Re: Webpage changes. (fwd)

[Andrew Smith <hobbit@mail.earthlight.co.nz>]

On Tue, 26 May 1998, Padraic Brown wrote:

> And utterly confounding to every Kernowman, who have enough trouble with
> the Mistarista as it stands, who understand this as having just been told
> to 'rush right on in to every Saxon arse'.  I think we shall have to
> graciously beg out of that unique opportunity!  After having a good long
> giggle with respect to certain cultural and idiomatic differences; I think
> the equivalent expression is "poni-lo al ngulan le cascun Zawzen."  (Like
> as not with an appropriate gesticulation.)  :-) 
>
'To take' in Welsh *there*, like Welsh *here*, is literally translated as
'to go with', so this toast literally translates as "take every Englisher
in the arse".  This suggests a different meaning of 'to take' than is
conveyed by 'gweddir cun', now I'm thinking that a better translation
might be "inghul pab saeson", which would introduce the verb "inghular",
cognate with French enculer.

Which rude gesture?  I can think of four:
The bird - one finger erect
The fingers - two fingers erect, palm inwards, 'victory' reversed.
? - gestured fist with other hand clenched in hollow of the elbow.
The O.K. sign - first finger and thumb joined, other fingers outspread,
obscene in some cultures.

the second toast is probably more socially acceptable!

- andrew.

Andrew Smith                                  <hobbit@earthlight.co.nz>

MAN, despite his artistic pretensions, his sophistication, and his many
accomplishments; still owes his existence to a six-inch layer of topsoil
and the fact that it rains.
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