Any images not in this thread are now OUT OF DATE.<\/p>", "image":"thumb/1228309460119s.jpg", "fsize":96253, "md5":"44b0da3de9a7f302274d51ab03efd6ab", "w":753, "h":1339, "tn_w":112, "tn_h":200, "filename":"", "postcount":52, "imagecount":6 }, { "no":610, "time":1290581938, "now":"10/11/24(Wed)06:58", "name":"ctino", "trip":"", "sub":"Lojban Flag concept", "com":"
Based loosely on the Bridi Man.
It is intentionally b\/w.<\/p>", "image":"thumb/1290581938587s.jpg", "fsize":8531, "md5":"4661c7819b58d7b7de37ba780fd3f234", "w":1000, "h":667, "tn_w":200, "tn_h":133, "filename":"", "postcount":8, "imagecount":1 }, { "no":913, "time":1458808735, "now":"16/03/24(Thu)08:38", "name":"la ramcinfo", "trip":"", "sub":"la kurfa staile zbalermorna", "com":"
This place seems to be mostly abandoned, and yet I post, for sake of tradition. This is my stylization of la kmir's zbalermorna. The form of letters stays approximately the same; vowel diacritics go below preceding consonants, not above, and rafsi- and rafsi-like CVC and CCV sequences are written as one vertical block.<\/p>
The typeface is influenced primarily by 'Phags-pa script and especially geometrized forms of Kufic calligrafic form of Arabic, but also by Tibetan script and Devanagari. Fictional writing system from video game FEZ and pictogram aesthetics from The Journey also left their mark.<\/p>", "image":"thumb/1458808735509s.jpg", "fsize":29223, "md5":"48b33b62d8dd914c88a041ec9d761b5a", "w":800, "h":800, "tn_w":200, "tn_h":200, "filename":"", "postcount":2, "imagecount":0 }, { "no":572, "time":1278387379, "now":"10/07/06(Tue)03:36", "name":"la .lindar.", "trip":"", "sub":"Lojban Modes!", "com":"
Let's start grabbing up orthographies and creating Lojban modes for them!<\/p>
I personally don't like the existing Tengwar modes, but I'll post my version (FAR superior!) later. For now, I have a Lojban mode set up for D'ni (featured in the popular Myst and Riven games) and Klingon. I don't know quite so much about Klingon, so somebody may want to pop in and correct me, but I'll post my thoughts behind each choice.<\/p>
"Fake" scripts aside, do we have Lojban modes for scripts like Cyrillic, Hebrew, whatever Farsi is written in, etc.? We should document them! People do often gripe about Roman letters being too western-biased, but new scripts too difficult, so we should make an effort to create Lojban modes for all of the different scripts out there, and maybe even use them, hm?<\/p>
I'm also working on some ideas for the much-sought-after Hiragana\/Katakana Lojban mode, because I have an inkling of how to pull it off.<\/p>", "image":"thumb/1278387379010s.jpg", "fsize":19448, "md5":"de524e035fea923e4fd077f062199144", "w":561, "h":195, "tn_w":200, "tn_h":69, "filename":"", "postcount":15, "imagecount":4 }, { "no":496, "time":1256910851, "now":"09/10/30(Fri)13:54", "name":"remod", "trip":"", "sub":"Another Elian-like proposal", "com":"
Following lindar, I've put together a proposal for a script that is based on the same principles of the Elian script.
I've not made any attempt to callygraphy, but the system has a lot of flexibility that should allow people to express their aestethic ability.<\/p>", "image":"thumb/1256910851309s.jpg", "fsize":223280, "md5":"0207bfc0d67520b9cc6b98f22440cc8e", "w":742, "h":911, "tn_w":162, "tn_h":200, "filename":"", "postcount":23, "imagecount":2 }, { "no":629, "time":1317394699, "now":"11/09/30(Fri)14:58", "name":"Anonymous", "trip":"", "sub":"Arabic orthography", "com":"
A possible arabic orthography. The precise assignments for tanwiin could be different.<\/p>", "image":"thumb/1317394699261s.jpg", "fsize":27639, "md5":"c1525213db71a62ecdc58da2d836a571", "w":600, "h":1000, "tn_w":120, "tn_h":200, "filename":"", "postcount":3, "imagecount":0 }, { "no":662, "time":1366897730, "now":"13/04/25(Thu)13:48", "name":"qq", "trip":"", "email":"mailto:q", "sub":"qq", "com":"
qq<\/p>", "image":"thumb/1366897730884s.jpg", "fsize":3852, "md5":"43af023c1c9927ed23fb51c750a8b96e", "w":48, "h":48, "tn_w":48, "tn_h":48, "filename":"", "postcount":1, "imagecount":0 }, { "no":857, "time":1413957447, "now":"14/10/22(Wed)05:57", "name":"Drew", "trip":"", "sub":"Programming some voice recognition functions", "com":"
Hello Lojbanis! My friend has been telling me about Lojban for a couple months, and I immediately loved it, though I must say, I'm only through part of chapter 2 so I'm a complete noob. I think it's amazing though, and I'm just wondering, has any work been done on some kind of Lojban based verbal text editor or better yet IDE? That seems like a really logical place to go. <\/p>", "postcount":0, "imagecount":0 }, { "no":643, "time":1336215709, "now":"12/05/05(Sat)11:01", "name":"Anonymous", "trip":"", "sub":"gismu ladders", "com":"
For a while now I have been thinking about how gismu are related to one-another, in a very typographical sense. Has any work been done towards finding the links between gismu that are only one edit away from each other?<\/p>
I understand that the links between the words would not contain anything meaningful, I just think it's slightly interesting.<\/p>", "postcount":4, "imagecount":0 }, { "no":660, "time":1348136087, "now":"12/09/20(Thu)10:14", "name":"lestyr", "trip":"", "sub":"script font", "com":"", "image":"thumb/1348136087489s.jpg", "fsize":22510, "md5":"533d46eb655094297434b83db4bb9da7", "w":685, "h":120, "tn_w":200, "tn_h":35, "filename":"", "postcount":1, "imagecount":1 }, { "no":655, "time":1346256420, "now":"12/08/29(Wed)16:07", "name":"la .iesk.", "trip":"", "sub":"Quotation marks", "com":"
… for Mr Everson.<\/p>", "image":"thumb/1346256420833s.jpg", "fsize":992956, "md5":"332d2bea44b4e35be96b7951e6e35b1a", "w":500, "h":889, "tn_w":112, "tn_h":200, "filename":"", "postcount":2, "imagecount":1 }, { "no":630, "time":1317398496, "now":"11/09/30(Fri)16:01", "name":"cntrational", "trip":"", "sub":"An alphabetic Arabic orthography", "com":"
Uses letters to represent vowels, like Kashmiri, Uyghur, and Kurdish.<\/p>
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a\tا
e\tإ
i\tي
o\tأ
u\tو
y\tى<\/p>
f\tف
v\tق
x\tخ<\/p>
s\tس
z\tز
c\tش
j\tج<\/p>
p\tپ
b\tب
t\tت
d\tد
k\tک
g\tگ<\/p>
l\tل
r\tر<\/p>
m\tم
n\tن
stress\t ّ
.\t.
'\tه
,\t،<\/p>
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lo badna ku kukte
لأ بادنا کو کوکتإ<\/p>
lo xe fanva be dei cu xlali xe fanva
لأ خإ فانقا بإ دإي شو خلالي خإ فانقا<\/p>
le mi varkiclaflo'i cu culno lo angila
لإ مي قارکيشلافلأهي شولنأ لأ انگيلا<\/p>
la .robin. prami lo ri gerku
ل<\/p>", "postcount":3, "imagecount":1 }, { "no":311, "time":1228673316, "now":"08/12/07(Sun)18:08", "name":"Henrik Hansen", "trip":"", "email":"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/%C3%98", "sub":"Impossible sounds", "com":"
The sound ø, is, as far as I can see, impossible to do in the current set of sounds that Lojban offer.
This is a big flaw if it's true!!!
Serval names are impossible to convert, and the language pronouncification don't utilize the humans voice inertly.<\/p>
So is this true, is Lojban incomplete, and if this is intentional, what would you do with a name like Søren Østergård
So should we add n<\/p>", "postcount":3, "imagecount":0 }, { "no":632, "time":1317398723, "now":"11/09/30(Fri)16:05", "name":"cntrational", "trip":"", "sub":"jbopomofo orthography", "com":"
An orthography meant to be used with a Chinese orthograhpy.<\/p>
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a\tㄚ
e\tㄜ
i\tㄧ
o\tㄛ
u\tㄨ
y\tㄩ<\/p>
f\tㄈ
v\tㄑ
x\tㄏ<\/p>
s\tㄙ
z\tㄗ
c\tㄕ
j\tㄓ<\/p>
p\tㄆ
b\tㄅ
t\tㄊ
d\tㄉ
k\tㄎ
g\tㄍ<\/p>
l\tㄌ
r\tㄖ<\/p>
m\tㄇ
n\tㄋ
precedes stressed syllable\t¯
.\t·
'\t、
,\t〜
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lo badna ku kukte
ㄌㄛㄅㄚㄉㄋㄚㄎㄨ¯ㄎㄨㄎㄊㄜ
個蕉ㄎㄨ鮮<\/p>
lo xe fanva be dei cu xlali xe fanva
ㄌㄛㄏㄜㄈㄚㄋㄑㄚㄅㄜㄉㄜㄧㄕㄨ ㄏㄌㄚㄌㄧㄏㄜㄈㄚㄋㄑㄚ
個ㄏㄜ譯ㄅㄜㄉㄜㄧㄕㄨ貧ㄏㄜ譯<\/p>
le mi varkiclaflo'i cu culno lo angila
ㄌㄜㄇㄧㄑㄚㄖㄎㄧㄕㄌㄚㄈㄌㄛ、ㄧㄕㄨㄕㄨㄌㄋㄛㄌㄛㄚㄋㄍㄧㄌㄚ
这我 氣墊舉舟 ㄕㄨ滿個ㄚㄋㄍㄧㄌㄚ<\/p>
la .robin. prami lo ri gerku
ㄌㄚ·ㄖㄛㄅㄧㄋ·¯ㄆㄖㄚㄇㄧㄌㄛㄖㄧㄍㄜㄖㄎㄨ
ㄌㄚ·ㄖㄛㄅㄧㄋ·愛個ㄖㄧ犬<\/p>
glibau
英文<\/p>", "postcount":2, "imagecount":0 }, { "no":637, "time":1325142242, "now":"11/12/29(Thu)07:04", "name":"lukys", "trip":"", "sub":"Yet another script", "com":"
This one was crafted with the notion of simplicity at mind. The letters are designed so that they are one stroke each. I have made an .odt file with some Unicode approximations I have found. They are overall pretty close to what I had in mind. Here is the .odt file, and I will produce a .doc file on request: why ljban use the apostopher for the "h" sound explain me why<\/p>", "postcount":6, "imagecount":0 }, { "no":397, "time":1251828094, "now":"09/09/01(Tue)18:01", "name":"remod", "trip":"", "sub":"shavian characters: a proposal", "com":" I put together a two pages document showing how shavian could be used to write Lojban. If you spend a couple of minutes looking at the examples, things could even start making sense :)<\/p> Whether is a good idea to use a different script than Latin or not, it's an entirely different discussion!<\/p>", "image":"", "fsize":110869, "md5":"771a7332f9fabf7edcb9489ce939c4cb", "w":0, "h":0, "tn_w":, "tn_h":, "filename":"", "postcount":5, "imagecount":2 }, { "no":257, "time":1226360781, "now":"08/11/10(Mon)23:46", "name":".kriltic.", "trip":"", "sub":"Why Are You Interested in Lojban?", "com":" I know, for me, the most prominent reason is that I like knowing anything that others do not but about which I may share my knowledge.<\/p>", "postcount":8, "imagecount":0 }, { "no":604, "time":1290580503, "now":"10/11/24(Wed)06:35", "name":"ctino", "trip":"", "sub":"larlermorna font", "com":" I tried making a font for writing in larlermorna. It was really annoying because I don't have a proper font editing program, so I had to use FontStruct. There are some visible kerning issues. But, I think it looks pretty dandy. Tell me if there're issues you see and I \/might\/ be able to fix them.<\/p>", "image":"", "fsize":2974, "md5":"ac7bc69581b0ee7c081aced37d6bf245", "w":0, "h":0, "tn_w":, "tn_h":, "filename":"", "postcount":4, "imagecount":1 }, { "no":611, "time":1290629933, "now":"10/11/24(Wed)20:18", "name":"ctino", "trip":"", "sub":"ctinoscript font", "com":" Here's a font I made for writing in my script. tl;dr: Elian Script variation for Lojban \/and\/ English. Please read attached file.<\/p>", "image":"", "fsize":679, "md5":"a346cc04568b235e0515f7c10584edf7", "w":0, "h":0, "tn_w":, "tn_h":, "filename":"", "postcount":1, "imagecount":0 }, { "no":601, "time":1289946650, "now":"10/11/16(Tue)22:30", "name":"la .lindar.", "trip":"", "sub":"The flag colours are ugly!", "com":" Lots of people are saying that the flag colours are ugly. Personally, I like http:\/\/jbotcan.org\/en\/src\/1283504008182.png<\/a> these colours, but not everybody seems to agree entirely. So, ITT flag recolours and such!<\/p> For my first idea, I pictured merging the two flags to a reasonable mixture. The bridi-man serves also as the cartesian plane!<\/p> POST YOUR FLAGS!<\/p>", "image":"thumb/1289946650042s.jpg", "fsize":43443, "md5":"07dc44ec2cf472267a7ad69798df10c7", "w":640, "h":400, "tn_w":200, "tn_h":125, "filename":"", "postcount":1, "imagecount":0 }, { "no":580, "time":1286574078, "now":"10/10/08(Fri)21:41", "name":"remod", "trip":"", "sub":"pro-sumti and pro-bridi cheatsheet", "com":" In line with other attempts of mine to find a way to memorize the key cmavo, I've produced a "periodic table of pro-sumti and pro-bridi" (see attachment). This is what happens during the event of alcoholfool. Probably better than artwritingsystem, this is betterthanlakmeermorna. Take that, Lakmeer! Tequila made this, so perhaps I should try the same thing on rum, whiskey, or vodka... >_><\/p>", "image":"thumb/1275125332064s.jpg", "fsize":361906, "md5":"838d61ab2aaf71200133902ce4b8e053", "w":1700, "h":2338, "tn_w":145, "tn_h":200, "filename":"", "postcount":1, "imagecount":0 }, { "no":560, "time":1270877466, "now":"10/04/10(Sat)05:31", "name":".kmir.", "trip":"", "sub":"Zbalermorna Final Version", "com":" coi rodo Should be back here with a 20-ish page PDF in about a week.<\/p> ki'e [23:08:21]<lindar>...I have an idea... So... I'd like to start scripting with somebody, then we'll leave a spot for somebody else to join in, and so on. I'd like a good 10 minute video for YT.<\/p> Also, if anybody is decent at video editing, please let me know.<\/p>", "postcount":0, "imagecount":0 }, { "no":435, "time":1254558407, "now":"09/10/03(Sat)08:26", "name":".ku'us.", "trip":"", "email":"http:\/\/img2.allposters.com\/images\/IMA\/B325.jpg", "sub":"attitudinal emoticons", "com":" you may have seen the linked image before, maybe in a US public school guidance counselor's office.<\/p> Anyhow, anyone ever done a series of 108 emoticons \/ depictions of the attitudinal cmavo before? See attached PNG (original is an inkscape SVG). Note that each spectrum has either identical eye\/eyebrows over each face, or a clear, unique flow from one extreme to the other (.a'u)<\/p> Such a collection of images could be used for flashcards, or just to replace that guidance counselor's poster with something more logical!<\/p> obviously some concerns here are to attempt to maintain cultural neutrality, and perhaps work to be PC (i.e. physical traits should not be clearly of a specific race\/gender\/diet-preference)<\/p> mu'omi'e .ku'us.<\/p>", "image":"thumb/1254558407113s.jpg", "fsize":113467, "md5":"a52d54897d3513d264427d44819aa9e4", "w":523, "h":593, "tn_w":176, "tn_h":200, "filename":"", "postcount":7, "imagecount":2 }, { "no":543, "time":1259487371, "now":"09/11/29(Sun)09:36", "name":"lamelnyk", "trip":"", "sub":"on handwriting", "com":" I've tried to find a handwriting system, that is suitable for "infinite" media(paper) and to small one(touchpads on mobile devices, etc). And, finally, made it. It is too simple, so i've, probably, rediscovered already known. Original "inplace" version can be "ported" to four-positional joystick, found on some old phones and to "infinite" paper (done). It is (almost) direction-insensitive, "recognizing" program can "synchronize" it's coordinates with yours at first stroke on every word.<\/p> In short (in-place version): letters "starts" and "ends" in the arbitrary chosen "centre" (near the point, where the "pen" first lands on writing surface), and are distinguished by the direction of pen's "horizontal" movement near the 2 points at "vertical" extremes. We recognize 5 variants at each (--, -+, 0, +-, ++). That gives us 25 distinct letters. Not enough for natlangs, but almost perfect for lojban. Also, 2 "special" features (horizontal strokes in 2 directions) are available somewhere. I've used them for "'" and "y". Natlangs can use it to extend the letter space to at least 36. Another extension is possible by adding "microletters" at the bottom\/top parts of some full-size letters. I've wanted to use it for lojban's diphthong, but that complicates the writing program, so that is postponed.<\/p> The system is easily adopted to infinite paper, by adding "time" to the "horizontal" axis on the "lower->upper" part of trajectory. Each letter, then, can be described as 2 points with cubic spline lines between them and to\/from first\/last points of adjacent letters. Program generated result is in the picture. "Vertical" axis is skewed -25° (stolen from the daughter's exercise book), "time" goes from left to right. The choice of axis is arbitrary, at the bottom you can see xrulyvalsi, written with polar coordinates (i cant read it, but only 2 "features" are indistinguishable, some tweaking can, probably, fix it).<\/p>", "image":"thumb/1259487371254s.jpg", "fsize":85557, "md5":"96be2defd74961cdc6587a51303bfd1e", "w":800, "h":600, "tn_w":200, "tn_h":150, "filename":"", "postcount":5, "imagecount":2 }, { "no":548, "time":1260312584, "now":"09/12/08(Tue)22:49", "name":"Anonymous", "trip":"", "sub":"streiteng", "com":" Here's my orthography. Read and weep. The text says "streiteng iz a kriptik orthografee".<\/p> p b m<\/p> s c j z<\/p> t d<\/p> f th v th (voiced)<\/p> h x g k gk<\/p> r(d) r rr (rolled r) l n<\/p> o a u u(d) i i(d) e y <\/p> ( )<\/p>", "image":"thumb/1260312584017s.jpg", "fsize":20015, "md5":"49ff02fef8d97eb600be206db152a5fe", "w":702, "h":428, "tn_w":200, "tn_h":121, "filename":"", "postcount":1, "imagecount":0 }, { "no":514, "time":1257410843, "now":"09/11/05(Thu)08:47", "name":"la .lindar.", "trip":"", "sub":"(more larlermorna!)", "com":" Here we have featured the diacritics featured in this script. The lovely thing about these is that they can be stuck -inside- the character if you desire, because they're just portions of boxes. I personally choose to write them as a superior (?) diacritic, as demonstrated in my examples.<\/p> Again, I apologise for the blurry pictures, but you can still see what I wrote fairly well.<\/p> So we have individual characters for each of the diphthongs, and then an underline to indicate initial U and an overline to indicate initial I. Easy enough, right?<\/p> Hugglesworth had an alternate idea, which I tested and found to be rather interesting, but there are still some failings. However, I really like the idea, almost more than my original idea for diacritics. I'll cover that next.<\/p>", "image":"thumb/1257410843037s.jpg", "fsize":371435, "md5":"cb722ad4abf41f27f49d8ccc19c78e18", "w":1200, "h":1600, "tn_w":150, "tn_h":200, "filename":"", "postcount":15, "imagecount":5 }, { "no":522, "time":1258299180, "now":"09/11/15(Sun)15:33", "name":"Hussell", "trip":"", "sub":"la jboselkei", "com":" I recently discovered la jboselkei (http:\/\/chain.lojban.org\/jsk\/<\/a>), and it's... really very nice. (For those who haven't already seen it, it's a site for posting non-Lojban texts, Lojban translations of those texts, and reviews of the translations, with a wonderfully complicated rating system. You don't have to give your email address or location to register, despite being requested.)<\/p> Does anyone here know who created and\/or maintains la jboselkei? I want to ask if a page showing recent activity, e.g., new posts, translations, and reviews, could be added, since it's currently quite difficult to tell whether anything is happening. It would also be better if unregistered (or logged-out) users could read the translations and reviews.<\/p>", "postcount":5, "imagecount":0 }, { "no":513, "time":1257410379, "now":"09/11/05(Thu)08:39", "name":"la .lindar.", "trip":"", "sub":"le larlermorna, the Lojbanic writing system based on CC Elian's "Elian Script".", "com":" Well, here I shall post my (extremely blurry) pictures regarding larlermorna. First I shall post a basic explanation. These activities are authorised by CC Elian, who requests that I demo anything to him and mention him as the original inventor.<\/p> Refer to the image for a basic explanation of how this works. <3<\/p> First we look at the basics. This should be self-explanatory. Hash grid, write the box, etc. Voiced versions get a long leg like in Elian Script's 'second cycle' letters.<\/p>
The vowels are a bit unique. They are made by drawing the lines adjacent or tangent (depending on whether it's on a corner or not) to the specific vowel on the IPA vowels chart and circling the vowel.
(http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/IPA_vowels_chart_with_audio<\/a>).
Please let me know what you think.<\/p>
http:\/\/www.2shared.com\/file\/5XjOerYq\/lukys_script.html<\/a><\/p>", "image":"", "fsize":62262, "md5":"389117723c18aaeb8f3a66817d9377de", "w":0, "h":0, "tn_w":, "tn_h":, "filename":"", "postcount":2, "imagecount":1 }, { "no":566, "time":1275008207, "now":"10/05/28(Fri)00:56", "name":"Anonymous", "trip":"", "sub":"question", "com":"
and why not the apostopher for the stops<\/p>
Some notes: - uses the [space] character. )@#$%^ are for dau fei gai jau rei vai respectively. ' creates a small H. If you're writing in lojban and want to keep all the characters on the same level just type H.<\/p>", "image":"", "fsize":3335, "md5":"80227e7eacaf39e047f894de9dd8a1a8", "w":0, "h":0, "tn_w":, "tn_h":, "filename":"", "postcount":3, "imagecount":2 }, { "no":608, "time":1290581725, "now":"10/11/24(Wed)06:55", "name":"ctino", "trip":"", "email":"http:\/\/goo.gl\/RPHOb", "sub":"Elian Script variation", "com":"
I really would appreciate any feedback.<\/p>", "image":"", "fsize":111464, "md5":"922bd0a8cee81b8aead098e3e788b24c", "w":0, "h":0, "tn_w":, "tn_h":, "filename":"", "postcount":3, "imagecount":0 }, { "no":570, "time":1275125332, "now":"10/05/29(Sat)09:28", "name":"la .lindar.", "trip":"", "sub":"betterthanlakmeermorna", "com":"
Sorry for long period of inactivity. Recently I've been satisfied with the state of ZLM and have begun creating a document which completely explains all the details and features and how to use them. It also includes a style guide and justifications for some of the decisions made during the iterative process. The final version is about 4.4.<\/p>
mi'e la kmir<\/p>", "postcount":4, "imagecount":0 }, { "no":564, "time":1273389253, "now":"10/05/09(Sun)07:14", "name":"la .lindar.", "trip":"", "sub":"te skina", "com":"
[23:15:37]Well, I wanted to do a silly kind of video thing. We could script out a basic conversation first. I would dial somebody on my mobile, then somebody else would pick up, and each time somebody had a line, it would cut to the other person.
[23:16:01]However, each time one person had a line, they would have to be in a different place.
[23:16:24]<Hugglesworth>hehe, sounds kinda fun
[23:16:39]<lindar>Not only that, but excepting the first shot (dialing\/picking up) and the last shot (hanging up), every shot has to be done with a different object.
[23:17:28]First I dial, pickup, I'm speaking into a banana, you're talking into an apple, then I'm speaking into a light switch, then you could be walking around with a fish against the side of your head, etc.
[23:18:16]<Hugglesworth>sounds almost monty python esc.
[23:18:18]<lindar>Then I say, "Oh, hold on, I've got another call." and it does a close up of a notepad with a phone drawn on it, and I'll put a beep in when I press the "switch call" button.
[23:18:37]Then somebody else could join in.
[23:25:46]* Hugglesworth likes this idea
[23:27:21]<lindar>I would -love- to get lojbab in on this for one shot saying, "Sorry, wrong number." in English. I get another call, answer in Lojban, it switches to Lojbab looking confused, and he replies, "Uhhh... sorry, wrong number..."<\/p>
The choice of "y" and "'" have made "y'y" indistinguishable from "y" on paper, which can be fixed in several ways, not described here. <\/p>