Erasure is an amazing tool in Lojban and quite useful, though I still have a hard time using it verbally (my tendency is to say "oops! I mean...").My question follows. Pretend that the dialogue is something like this: le mlatu cu pinxa loi birje sa vanju.Now, you probably wanted to use {si}, but you did not. You basically said that the cat is wine. Is there any way to erase {sa} and replace it with {si}, without having to erase anything other than the word for erasure? You cannot use another word for erasure, because they erase themselves immediately after they act.Thanks.
Erasure is an amazing tool in Lojban and quite useful, though I still have a hard time using it verbally (my tendency is to say "oops! I mean...").
My question follows. Pretend that the dialogue is something like this: le mlatu cu pinxa loi birje sa vanju.
Now, you probably wanted to use {si}, but you did not. You basically said that the cat is wine. Is there any way to erase {sa} and replace it with {si}, without having to erase anything other than the word for erasure? You cannot use another word for erasure, because they erase themselves immediately after they act.
Thanks.
>>239>> "You basically said that the cat is wine."No offense intended [.ui], but I do not know if that statemtent is correct. [vanju] may be taken to be instead of [birje] (what is apparently wanted); or it may (because brivla are selbri until defined as sumti, and they do not always need [zo cu] to denopte this) replace (as you state) [pinxa] or make it into a tanru [pinxa vanju]; or it might (using the rule in which it does not need [zo cu]), if it replaces [pinxa], create/result in "[le mlatu vanju] = "the cat-type-of wine". I do not know which.However, I understand your point. Meta-erasure, as far as I know, does not exist- although it would be a helpful tool! It might just make it too complicated, however, to be useful (as your example hints at demonstrating). I would just go with deleting the whole bridi and starting over again if it is not too long. Actually, in verbal conversation especially, you could probably make it very short because the other person already understand what you are talking about: [.i le mlatu po mi sa .i le mlatu...].[.uisaifu'idaito.au]
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>> "You basically said that the cat is wine."
No offense intended [.ui], but I do not know if that statemtent is correct. [vanju] may be taken to be instead of [birje] (what is apparently wanted); or it may (because brivla are selbri until defined as sumti, and they do not always need [zo cu] to denopte this) replace (as you state) [pinxa] or make it into a tanru [pinxa vanju]; or it might (using the rule in which it does not need [zo cu]), if it replaces [pinxa], create/result in "[le mlatu vanju] = "the cat-type-of wine". I do not know which.
However, I understand your point. Meta-erasure, as far as I know, does not exist- although it would be a helpful tool! It might just make it too complicated, however, to be useful (as your example hints at demonstrating). I would just go with deleting the whole bridi and starting over again if it is not too long. Actually, in verbal conversation especially, you could probably make it very short because the other person already understand what you are talking about: [.i le mlatu po mi sa .i le mlatu...].
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