Re: Rromei-Geldyghei lyngvei (Roman-Celtic langs)

[Frank George Valoczy <valoczy@VCN.BC.CA>]

On Sat, 18 Apr 1998, Sam Bryant wrote:

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> >On Fri, 17 Apr 1998, Frank George Valoczy wrote:
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> >> Cases are the six Latin (nom, acc, gen, dat, abl, loc).
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> >
> >Um, Latin doesn't have locative (except in a few archaic forms such as
> >
> >"domi", at home), it has vocative ("Et tu Brute".)
> >
> >
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> >Not that there is anything wrong with your case system, of course :-)
>
> Well, my first year latin book (Allyn and Bacon 1987) says "With names of
> cities, towns, small islands, *domus*, and *rus*, the proposition is not used
> in expressions of place. These words express place where by a case called the
> locative." It then goes on to describe how you don't need prepositions to
> indicate place where, from which, or to which in nouns with a locative case,
> you use the locative, ablative, and accusative, respectively, without a
> preposition. So it really seems that Latin retains the IE locative a bit more
> than vestigially. Of course you're right, it isn't complete, but that doesn't
> mean Latin doesn't have that case "except in a few archaic
> forms".
>
> But if a conlang was latin-derived, it would be od for it to redevelope the
> Locative into a fully used case. I happen to like the locative, though, so I
> encourage everyone to use it. :)

More Old Latin, but anyway.

I like the locative too, but I like even more the developments of it in
Magyar and Finnish.  I still very much love the idea of a superessive.
And the Nenets super- and hyperprobabilitative moods (aspects?)...here I
go rambling again....

---Feri

>
> Anyway...
>
> ever green
> sam
>

-------ferke
Ferenc Gy. Valoczy

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